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So when I got home I had pumpkin curry and downloaded Chrome.

It worked fine. It started up fast, it is much faster at loading GMail than Firefox. It rendered most complex sites (such as DriveThroughRPG or Games Workshop Australia's online store) faster than any other browser I've used. It uses less memory than Firefox, and it's separate process model allows the memory to be properly released as tabs are closed, meaning it doesn't just keep chewing up more memory like other browsers. I purposefully opened all my bookmarks at once just to see what would happen, and it handled it fine without freezing up either the browser or the operating system. So in a lot of ways it does what it is advertised to do. Downloading and displaying a PDF using the Acrobat plug-in in an integral tab was blindingly fast in comparison to other browsers.

Unfortunately it displays the classic symptoms of a product designed by geeks and rushed out a before thinking about how it would actually be used. The DOM inspector is nice, but useless for people who aren't developers. It didn't give me a choice of which browser to import bookmarks from on installation, defaulting to IE which I don't use, so I had to manually go and do that afterwards. Interestingly, it imported all my stored passwords as well. However, as far as I can tell it has no "manage bookmarks" option, which, as I don't want all my bookmarks under a folder called "imported from Firefox" would have been nice. It also didn't import my tool-bar book marks into it's tool-bar, meaning I have to do them manually and individually as there's no obvious way to manage them except direct drag and drop, which only allows you to drag a single item.

It failed on several sites to. Links and menus that work fine in other browsers, such as the login page from DriveThruRpg were either malformed by Chrome so that the request to load the page failed, or just didn't work, though it's possible this could be a result of browser specific code on the site not understanding a new user-agent type. I managed to log in eventually, but there's obviously some issues. Also, Chrome refused to let me download more than one file from DriveThruRpg at a time, it seems it's restricting each page to a single a pop-up at a time only, though it did queue the pop-up and allow the next one to work in the same window after the first finished... odd. The lack of feedback on clicking links is a bit disconcerting, and I really, really miss image zoom, though if you look carefully it does have text zoom.

Overall, I'm impressed at it's speed and responsiveness, and I'd love to use it, but it's not quite yet ready for prime time yet, it needs a few more features, image zoom, bookmark management, etc., before I could switch to it. It is a beta release, but then Gmail's been in beta how long now?

I'm running Windows XP SP2 Home Edition, on a dual core 5600+ AMD Processor with 4Gb of memory. Smaller machines may not notice the speed differences as much as I did.

Date: 2008-09-03 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatjna.livejournal.com
Thanks for the headsup. I'll stick with Firefox for a bit longer I think.

Incidentally, I should probably update to XP sometime. I've been running Windows2000 for years, and I'm totally happy with it, but it's now getting to the point where hunting for drivers for new devices and the like is becoming more and more of a common task, and I'm thinking soon I should take the plunge before it all becomes completely obsolete.

Of course the only way I know how to do this is to call [livejournal.com profile] grist and go "la la la love you brother of mine etc"

hehehe

Date: 2008-09-03 11:55 pm (UTC)
ext_74896: Tyler Durden (Default)
From: [identity profile] mundens.livejournal.com
Yep I'm sticking with Firefox a bit longer too.

I'm sure there's a number of other people in your flist as well as your brother that could assist you with upgrading your system. Slipstreamed XP install CDs are available on the web, and you don't even need a legal copy if you avoid ones with SP3, coz SP3 nags you about it.

Date: 2008-09-03 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatjna.livejournal.com
This is me admitting shamefacedly that I don't even know what SP3 is.

Service Pack?
Snake Patrol?
Small Penis?

Date: 2008-09-04 12:14 am (UTC)
ext_74896: Tyler Durden (Default)
From: [identity profile] mundens.livejournal.com
:) For some reason that makes me want to mix up those six words into all the potential permutations, Service Penis, Snake Pack, etc...

Service Pack is correct BTW, but it's not a shameful thing to not know it.

Date: 2008-09-03 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarratt-gray.livejournal.com
Not sure that the product is rushed out exactly as it is beta release, but perhaps as you say with gmail it might remain there forever. Perhaps that is how it is with a product made by geeks. They want to keep it in beta so they can forever tweek it.

Also it probably only imports bookmarks from IE because they figure FF users already got it good. They really just want people to stop using that other crap. :D

Date: 2008-09-03 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beagl.livejournal.com
Nah, it imports from Firefox as well. Which is a good thing because personally I'm sick of how crap Firefox is...

Date: 2008-09-04 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fraser-by-proxy.livejournal.com
Yes, my toolbar bookmarks transferred fine with no hassle, and I didn't end up with a "Imported from Firefox" folder.

Perhaps it's because I've disabled IE as much as I know how to do, and thus there was no info to transfer? Thus, perhaps no need to separate Firefox an IE bookmarks? Dunno.

Date: 2008-09-03 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repton-infinity.livejournal.com
Presumably there's a way to submit feedback to google (since that's the point of a beta, right?).. so did you send this to them?

I'll probably be sticking with Firefox, since I don't want to lose my extensions (also there's no Chrome for Mac at the moment anyway), but it'll be interesting to see if FF can steal any of Chrome's good ideas.

Date: 2008-09-04 12:07 am (UTC)
ext_74896: Tyler Durden (Default)
From: [identity profile] mundens.livejournal.com
I posted my review in their Chrome feature requests and suggestions group.

Looking at the various groups there, they already have enough people bugging them about the proxy server thing I mentioned previously, and there seems to be a consensus that the lack of book mark management is a big issue too, so that may get some focus.

Date: 2008-09-03 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cha0sslave.livejournal.com
Have you tested it on flash type animations and games? I play a few of those when I'm bored and sometimes they often have issues with IE.

Date: 2008-09-03 11:52 pm (UTC)
ext_74896: Tyler Durden (Default)
From: [identity profile] mundens.livejournal.com
No. Flash is a vile proprietary aberration that gos completely against the whole concept of the web, and that I refuse to have anything to do with.

However, I read another Chrome review somewhere that said that when Flash crashes, which reportedly it does with regularity, under Chrome it doesn't take the whole browser with it.

Date: 2008-09-04 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beagl.livejournal.com
I quite like flash when used appropriately. Like Flash games...

But anyway, one of the big things about Chrome is that each tab runs as a separate process. One dies - the rest live!

It's the primary reason I'm interested in switching to it.

Date: 2008-09-04 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] repton-infinity.livejournal.com
I heard you can crash the whole brwoser by typing :% into the address bar.
(no way to check this since I'm using a mac)

Date: 2008-09-04 06:05 am (UTC)
ext_74896: Tyler Durden (Default)
From: [identity profile] mundens.livejournal.com
It's true! I expect it was done on purpose to test the crash and restart handler though.

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